Search

Cover submission

processed

Drafi Deutscher And His Magics – Marmor, Stein Und Eisen Bricht

Submitted by

bickel

On January 29, 2012

Performance

performance

Marmor, Stein und Eisen bricht

By Drafi Deutscher and His Magics

Completeness

14%

Processed by

Bastien

On January 30, 2012

Release
(unknown)

Additional comments and sources

I'd Like to add this track and his dutch cover:


Drafi Deutscher And His Magics – Marmor, Stein Und Eisen Bricht

Released in 1965 on single in germany and written by drafi himself.

Source discoggs


Trea Dobbs - Marmer, staal en steen vergaan Released by decca in 1965.

Source Top40 hitdossier (also on youtube)

History

Comment by Bastien
2012-01-29 16:06:14 UTC

This is a very interesting case, because the original is not yet in our database. The first thing we need to do is create the "work". Therefore we need to know who the auhors/composers are. Our preferred sources for this are the following: http://www.secondhandsongs.com/wiki/Main/Bookmarks#composers


See if you can find it in one of these databases?

 
Comment by bickel
submitter
2012-01-30 21:16:26 UTC

The original work:

Artist Drafi Deutscher And His Magics

Title Marmor, Stein Und Eisen Bricht

Music Christian Bruhn & Drafi Deutscher

Lyric Rudolf Guenter Loose

Label Decca

Catnum D 19 735

Released 1965


Sources, gema.de, coverinfo.de, discogs.com & drafi.de


And than the cover:

Artist Trea Dobbs

Title Marmer, staal en steen vergaan

Translated lyrics by H. Peters

Label Decca

Catnum AT 10 180

Released 1965

 
Comment by Bastien
2012-01-30 21:42:21 UTC

Music Christian Bruhn & Drafi Deutscher

Lyric Rudolf Guenter Loose


Excellent! Note that the GEMA db can't handle umlaut, so it's actually Rudolf Günter Loose.


Work created: Marmor, Stein und Eisen bricht

 
Comment by Bastien
2012-01-30 21:48:45 UTC

Label Decca

Catnum D 19 735

Released 1965


Added: Marmor, Stein und Eisen bricht

 
Comment by Bastien
2012-01-30 21:49:26 UTC

Translated lyrics by H. Peters


Source?

 
Comment by bickel
submitter
2012-01-30 21:58:31 UTC

See attachment for reliable source. H. Peters is the one added to the list, the other 3 are the original writers. Since the music is still the same he has to be the translator.

 
Comment by Bastien
2012-01-31 11:07:53 UTC

That's a good start, but there are 2 things you need to know.


1) To the standards of our database, H. Peters is too imprecise. We really need to know his full name.


2) Although using pyshical sources is highly recommended, we also found out that credits are often very inaccurate. In this case I would doublehceck it with BUMA/STEMRA if I were you.

 
Comment by bickel
submitter
2012-01-31 20:10:55 UTC

Hi,


Well i also see H Peters there on this track with almost it's fullname, we will probably never know were the 'th' stands for:


JOHANNES TH HANS PETERS Mechanisch recht 00024102346 Sub-tekstdichter

 
Comment by Bastien
2012-08-05 15:05:20 UTC
 
Change by shs
2015-08-14 18:00:00 UTC
Conversion from forum topic to cover submission